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Roundup 5-10-2019

May 9, 2019


Transportation – We’ll See

— Maybe, BRT

— On the Boulevard

— Some Mayoral Thoughts

— Referendum

— Ferry

— Scooters

— Roads to Nowhere

— Do It Right

Downtown – Surprise

Downtown – Huh?

Downtown – That Was Fast

USF Area – Hooray, Beer . . . Sort Of

Airport – A Little Something

USF – Regular Service is Resumed

Complete Streets in the Pete



Transportation – We’ll See

— Maybe, BRT

Last week we discussed how TBARTA was going to spend (waste) $5 million (if it ever gets all of it, though TBARTA got more than previously discussed ) studying the ill-conceived “BRT” plan.  This week, for a change, there was some news about HART and a potentially useful BRT idea in Hillsborough.

Hillsborough County’s bus agency has approved spending up to $2.5 million in state grant money to study the possibility of a special bus lane connecting downtown Tampa and the University of South Florida.

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The bus rapid transit line — a term for a route that usually has its own dedicated lane, fewer stops and quicker boarding — would run on or close to Florida and Nebraska avenues before turning down Fowler Avenue. All three are state roads, which is part of the reason why the Florida Department of Transportation is interested in supporting the route.

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“This study is a 100 percent funded by (the state),” county commissioner and transit board member Kimberly Overman said. “And it gives us some opportunity to provide some feedback in the process.”

What exactly are they studying?

The study is broken down into two phases. The first phase, estimated to cost $670,000, heavily involves public involvement, concept development, and identifying and prioritizing the projects HART would move forward with in moving on to Phase 2.

Cochran added that the board will discuss the feasibility of the projects recommended before moving forward to the next phase that HART would invest the remaining $1.8 million from the grant.

Cochran said Phase 1 would likely be completed by the end of the year or early 2020.

The second phase would be project development and environmental, looking at the design and engineering efforts.

That seems completely reasonable.  We are all for studying the arterial BRT routes, though it should be done in concert with any ideas about the CSX lines or the Boulevard (see below).  While they are not exactly the same corridor, there are similarities in some of the customer profile and potential overlap that should be considered.  And we are all for studying this idea and doing it in concert with the Heights study.

We also know there are some complexities in the Nebraska/Florida areas regarding dedicated lanes that will have to be considered. Because of those things, we are not going to prejudge it.  However, this is the type of BRT that can actually be useful for getting around a city, create transit oriented developments, and change how people interact with their surroundings.  In other words, unlike the “BRT” plan, it can be real BRT.

And, unlike the “BRT” plan study, this study is worth the money.

— On the Boulevard

Three was a move on the Boulevard idea. From URBN Tampa Bay:

BREAKING: The Hillsborough MPO board voted unanimously today to commit to further study of the Boulevard Tampa concept, which would transform the segment of I-275 north of Downtown Tampa into a multi-modal urban boulevard capable of transporting more people than the highway does, while facilitating a more attractive built environment and higher quality of life.

Like the arterial BRT, we are all for studying the idea, even if many of the preconditions do not yet exist.

Please note that this is a long range planning type of thing, not something that would be happening to that segment of I-275 any time soon. The boulevard concept in fact remains more likely than not to never happen, in spite of this committment to study the concept.

That analysis is on point.  However, even if not implemented, there is value in having such idea actively enter the conversation rather than always being focused on 18 to 24 lane interstate projects.

— Some Mayoral Thoughts

Speaking of HART, the new Mayor has decided to sit on the HART board rather than choosing a representative. That is fine with us.  She also gave an interview to the Business Journal where she shared some thoughts about transportation.

There was progress under the Buckhorn administration, but transportation reform still feels like it’s very much in the beginning stages, like you have almost a blank slate there. What is your vision?

Yes. We didn’t lack for good ideas, we lacked for the funding for transportation, so now we have that. [The All for Transportation referendum, which voters approved in November, raised the sales tax in Hillsborough County to fund transit initiatives.]

There are some things we can do that will be quick wins — getting some streets repaved, a comprehensive sidewalk program, lighting up our streets, making them safer. Those kinds of things can be pretty immediate.

But when you start talking about any kind of mass transit, those things can take years. Just the streetcar expansion — the environmental studies, they’re telling me that’s three or four years or down the road.

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Is there anything that can be done within city limits, say downtown to Westshore, that doesn’t require any cooperation from any other entity?

No, I don’t think there’s anything that can be done that doesn’t require cooperation. My vision is to activate the CSX line and to extend the streetcars from Ybor City to downtown to Tampa Heights and eventually all the way into Seminole Heights. So you’ll connect all of those neighborhoods and hopefully people won’t have to buy a car so you’ll reduce the congestion, the need for parking, and you’ll connect all of those neighborhoods. And have an east-west connector to connect downtown with Westshore, something like a streetcar or bus rapid transit down Cypress Street to connect those, and then on to the airport.

First, we are all for doing those little things, which can actually be quite big in the aggregate.  That is where much of the City’s money from the referendum would go.  As for real transit, she is right that it takes cooperation, which is something that, for a variety of reasons, has been lacking previously . . . but that is the past.

As for the actual vision, it is a start.  However, we would suggest that lacks a central focus.  We think the line on the CSX tracks should be the unifying line (the spine, if you want) and not just “commuter rail.” And the connection of downtown to the airport should be an expansion of the CSX lines (which would also connect the airport to many other parts of the county without too many changes).  It is also notable because a line on CSX tracks could be extended to Pinellas and Pasco at some point (the CSX tracks already runs into Pinellas and Pasco).  So while it may need a little tweaking, at least the Mayor gave a publicly stated idea, and we can work with that.

And there was this:

That’s very ambitious, that people may not need a car in one of the most car-centric metros in the U.S. Are parking minimums something you’d look at revising downtown? That developers can build whatever they want and the market dictates if it works?

That is something we need to look at. And I’ll work with city council on that. We had a situation where someone wanted to build apartments with no parking and it was denied. The way I see it, if you’re signing a lease for something that has no parking spaces, then you probably don’t have a car. So we do need to look at those types of code requirements.

We are fine with this too.  And the better the transit the more that can be extended.

Of course, as of right now, all this is talk, but it sounds good.  We shall see what happens.

— Referendum

There was finally a substantive hearing on the referendum lawsuit.  However, the hearing was continued so that there could be more argument.  We are not going to comment on the lawsuit but you can read articles about it here and here.

— Ferry

The Times had an opinion piece by members of the Greater Tampa Chamber of Commerce section that deals with the military (here)  You can read the whole thing yourself, but we will highlight this:

Military families are not the only ones to potentially benefit from this additional transportation mode. Williams Park is situated in one of the fastest-growing parts of Hillsborough County. According to the U.S Census Bureau, Hillsborough is one of top 10 fastest growing counties in the country. A projected 10,000 new homes — with most of that growth anticipated in South Hillsborough — will be built over the next 15 years. Connecting families in this part of Hillsborough County to both St. Petersburg and downtown Tampa, including Tampa Bay Lightning games and the much-anticipated Water Street entertainment district, is an undeniable win for all Tampa commuters and visitors alike.

It is undeniable that having a connection between South County and MacDill could be useful, and we do not oppose that.  However, it is also undeniable that all the other services proposed in the ferry proposal have are more of the fun cruise variety.  They do not run on weekday mornings.  They run at night and on weekends.  (It will not even take a South County resident who works at MacDill to downtown Tampa or St. Pete from work and then home.)  Therefore, they are irrelevant, except to the extent that those services are priced into the cost to Hillsborough County and help give revenue to the operators.  It is also undeniable that the South County-MacDill ferry would be more useful if it had access to the rest of South Tampa at the same time.

Everyone knows that MacDill is very important for this area.  The question with the ferry proposal is why the costs have gone up and what do we get out of the increase in price (the operator gets a subsidy to run a fun cruise on nights and weekends, but what do we get?) We have stated our questions.  They have not been answered, yet.

The chamber remains committed to all adequate transportation options for all commuters—military and non-military. This business plan is another step in the right direction, and we look forward to working with HMS Ferries, South Swell Development and our county commission towards a solution for all.

We hope they do, and we hope they consider the fair points raised by others.  There is likely a deal to be made (but it may not be the deal that has been presented).

— Scooters

There was news on the scooters:

Tampa’s e-scooter pilot program vendors are ready to take on the city.

The one-year Shared Motorized Scooter Pilot Program was slated to be underway by early April with three scooter operators, but the city recently added a fourth vendor to the mix and had some concerns regarding scooter safety.

The program is now expected to start by the end of this month or in June, Jean Duncan, transportation and stormwater services department director, told the Tampa Bay Business Journal in an email.

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Operators can initially deploy up to 600 motorized scooter vehicles at key transit stations, commercial zones and denser residential areas. However, the scooters cannot be staged or used on the Tampa Riverwalk or Bayshore Boulevard.

It will be interesting to see.

— Roads to Nowhere

As of this writing, the Governor has not signed the bill yet (we assume he will, but maybe he will surprise us).  In any event, there was a very good opinion piece in the Sun-Sentinel about the plan.  You can read it here. (If you are curious, the final House vote by member can be found here.  You don’t need the Senate vote because only one person voted against it.)

– Do It Right

Recently, ABC Action News had a piece about people parking in bike lanes (here)

Transportation leaders in Hillsborough County will soon reach out to officials in the city of Tampa about drivers parking in bicycle lanes and on the sidewalks.

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“These people are crazy,” said Billy Wilson while riding his bike along Tampa Street, “I mean they’ll force you out of the bike lane they’ll honk at you, scream at you.”

Wilson said he recently had to jump off his bike because a driver was coming toward him.

He said his bicycle was totaled.

Wilson has seen drivers park along Tampa Street nearly every day, especially on the weekend when there is overflow from parking in downtown.

“If they do park where you can get by, then they open their door, they’re not looking for us, they’re not looking in their rear-view mirror,” said Wilson.

Which leads into a study URBN Tampa Bay referenced recently about painted bike lanes and passing distances of cars:

– “We know that vehicles driving closely to cyclists increases how unsafe people feel when riding bikes and acts as a strong barrier to increasing cycling participation. Our results demonstrate that a single stripe of white paint does not provide a safe space for people who ride bikes,” said Dr. Ben Beck, lead author of the study.”

“And the roadscape appears to have an effect on how close drivers get to people on bikes. On average, cars left 10 inches (29 cm) less room when cyclists were using painted cycle lanes, 12 inches (30cm) less room when there were rows of parked cars along the curbs, and 15.7 inches (40cm) less room when a road had both parked cars along the curb, then a painted cycle lane. (In other words, cars left cyclists the most room on stretches of road with no painted cycle lanes and no parked cars.)”

In other words, the study tells us:

We identified that on-road bicycle lanes and parked cars reduced passing distance. These data can be used to inform the selection and design of cycling-related infrastructure and road use with the aim of improving safety for cyclists.

Do you know where passing distances are relatively uniform (and irrelevant) and people probably won’t park in the bike lane?  Protected bike lanes.

Downtown – Surprise

URBN Tampa Bay first reported a surprise entry into the Accela database on a lot that has been the proposed site for other large projects in the past:

A 41-story apartment project has been proposed on two lots at 601 and 602 East Whiting in Downtown Tampa. The project includes a 41-story tower with 487 apartments on the block bound by Pierce, Whiting, Washington, and Morgan. A sky bridge connects the tower to what appears to be a parking garage with retail in the base where the parking lot next to The Aurora currently sits.


From URBN Tampa Bay – click on picture for Facebook page

That was unexpected (and would certainly show what folly Aurora is). The lots are here:

From Florida Future at SkyscraperCity – click on picture for post


While there are clearly two towers, 41 and 27 floors, the information is a little messy in the Accela because there are separate entries for each lot with some designs from Helmut Jahn architects. The easiest way to do it by building.

The project description for 602 E. Whiting (“Seasons Apartments”) is:

Construction of a 41-story tower; 487-unit multi-family housing tower with associated leasing office, two restaurant spaces, singular retail space and rooftop pool. (5 floors of parking, within an 8-floor podium structure)

It includes:

-41 floors with a height of 476 ft (another document says 480 ft above grade).

-Providing some street activity on the bottom floor are two restaurant spaces, a little other retail and a lobby, with a total of 11,657 sq ft of retail (not counting the lobby).  Together they give at least some activity on all four sides of that building.  We are not completely enamored with the parking ramp but at least there is some activity along Whiting as well as the other streets and an internal drive with a porte cochere wrapping around a water feature of some sort. Additionally, there is east-west access into the central area

-The pedestal will feature a green wall screen.

-There is an open space in the northwest corner of the lot.

-The proposal has 379 parking spaces (apparently 487 required) Being right in the middle of downtown, we have no problem with that having fewer.

-Larger amenities like the pool are in this building.

-The apartments, even on higher floors, are quite small (see fourth picture below)

Now to some renderings and models:


From Accela database – click on picture for a bigger version


From Accela database – click on picture for a bigger version


From Accela database – click on picture for a bigger version



From Accela database – click on picture for a bigger version

The project description for 601 E. Whiting (“Seasons Suites”), which is the narrow lot next to Aurora, is:

Construction of a 54-unit multi-family housing tower topping at 27 floors. Parking provided in Floor 7 of parking garage at Seasons Apartments, 602 E Whiting St. A Pedestrian Bridge at Level 6 spans E Whiting St and provides access to the parking structure and Amenity Deck at Seasons Apartments.

It includes:

-27 floors with a height of 323 feet (325 feet above grade).

-There are three studios per floor between floors 9-26 (27 is mechanical), for 57 units

-Indoor bike parking

-Lounge and fitness room

-Extremely narrow building

-Metal and glass façade.  Except for the northeast corner, it seems that the walls not facing the street (the east and south walls) will be completely covered by metal panels, which is quite a bit of blank walls, especially facing the waterfront.


From Accela database – click on picture for a bigger version

That blue/gray is metal panels, not windows (contrast with the pictures above that show windows).

While we are still lacking details, including about the development team (we know who filed the application, but is that the development team?), looking at the project overall, it is quite large and tall and would definitely stick out, especially if built with the colors in the renderings.  We are all for variety of facades, but we are not sure (really, we are not sure) about those colors (though they very well may grow on us) and we are not sure about having 27 stories of blank metal panels.   Additionally, the narrowness of the Seasons Suites tower will definitely be interesting to see.  Given the size of the project and the size of the lot, the street activity is decent.  As for the business plan, we leave that to the developers.

While we would still like to see more and think about it, our initial impression of the Seasons Apartments building is good, though we are not sure about the colors.  However, we have a real concerns about the Seasons Suites 27 stories of metal panels.  We hope they do something to address that.  We shall have to see much about this proposal.

Downtown – Huh?

In sharp contrast to the last item, URBN Tampa Bay had news that the owners of the Domino’s building at 1005 North Tampa Street have a proposal:

Ugh…a developer wants to tear down the structure at 1005 North Tampa Street (the Dominos building) to turn the whole lot into a surface parking lot.

Parking should not be an allowable primary use within the Downtown zoning code. We have no idea how a surface parking lot achieves the goals of the Downtown form-based code or contributes to making Downtown a better place.

If you would like to comment on this project as it goes through review, we suggest emailing city staff, opposing the project. This project may not get a public hearing:

File number: DDR-19-0000021 (put this in the subject title)
Contact name: Tracie A. Norton
Planning Permit Technician I, Planning & Development Department

Remember, be nice to planning staff in your email. It is not their fault the project sucks.


To give some context for the site, this is directly across the street from where a 23 story apartment tower project was just approved. Matter of fact, that project’s restaurant slip directly faces this lot. Also, the parking lot would be directly adjacent to Massey Park.

The building on the site was built in 1938.

According to a later article by the Business Journal:

The surface lot will have 46 spaces, according to city filings, and the owner is also planning to make sidewalk improvements to North Tampa, East Harrison and East Tyler streets.

Joe Taggart, who has owned the property since 1978, said he isn’t prepping for any future development. A private company, which Taggart declined to identify, has leased all of the spots, and the lot won’t be available for public parking.

Putting a surface parking lot on that property is something we do not support because we do not support expanding surface parking in downtown.  But there is even more regarding this lot. In the “project” application on Accela, the developer partially justifies some its plan with this:

TECO Streetcar Expansion. Per meetings with the City of Tampa Planning and Urban Design Division, an expansion plan for the TECO Streetcar is underway. Such expansion would include streetcar track along the east half of N Tampa Street, adjacent to the proposed property. Existing conditions include two full access driveways along N Tampa Street which would need to be accounted for in design of the streetcar travel path. However, the proposed improvements would relocate both driveways from N Tampa Street to the other adjacent rights-of-way. The relocation of these driveways would also create space for a potential streetcar stop along N Tampa Street adjacent to the property.

In other words, instead of taking advantage of the streetcar running right along the property and a potential stop right in front of the property by building an urban, walkable building, the developer just wants to put a few surface parking spaces there.  How very 1970’s.

Plans like this should be opposed.  And if this can get by without a hearing then even more reason to change the code.  Needless to say, this is not how the City should be treating downtown in general and the streetcar path in particular.

Downtown – That Was Fast

In interesting news from URBN Tampa Bay:

The apartment project at 102 East Tyler St. in Downtown Tampa has applied for a building permit. We have a new rendering for the 23 story, 188 unit project.


From Florida Future at SkyscraperCity – click on picture for post

We have to say, even with the oddly shaped lot, it looks a bit institutional, apparently with reason:

It’s worth noting, this is a student housing project, so there will be far more “beds” than 188, since multiple people will share the units. We have attached a floor plan for one of the floors of the building to demonstrate this in the comments section. Notice the “study lounge.”


From Florida Future at SkyscraperCity – click on picture for post

In any event, it appears this building is going to get built. Hopefully it turns out more attractive than the rendering.

USF Area – Hooray, Beer . . . Sort Of

A proposal has emerged regarding the Yuengling Brewery on 30th Street near Busch Gardens:

The Pottsville, Pennsylvania-based brewery on May 3 filed rezoning plans with the city that would make way for new development on the north and west ends of the brewery property. The existing brewery will not change, according to the plans filed with the city.

The rezoning application requests two waivers from the city, one in regard to the removal of grand trees on the property and another for a reduction in loading berths.

Here’s a breakdown of the types of development Yuengling could pursue on its property:

Here are some massing diagrams and a site plan:


From Florida Future at SkycraperCity – click on picture for post

From Florida Future at SkycraperCity – click on picture for post

From Florida Future at SkycraperCity – click on picture for post


We have mixed feelings about this.  First, it is a large piece of unused land in an area that could use some good development, and this seems like an interesting idea.  Hotel, restaurant, microbrewery, beer garden, etc.  That is all good.  On the other hand, it is completely car oriented (including a very large retention pond on the street and a driveway cutting the project off from 30th Street and the area around it, which we tend to be against.   Then again, the entire area around it is basically a sprawling mess (though there is housing and other retail nearby) and it is a brewery.  Then again, it is near the CSX lines and could be part of a circulator system.  And, done better, it could also help jump start a remaking of the area into something better than a sprawling mess.

To summarize, we applaud the effort and the general idea.  We would definitely like the concept (if not this exact plan) to go forward.  However, we wish it were done better with at least an attempt to relate to the area around it.

Airport – A Little Something

While it is not big news, Norwegian is adding a third weekly flight to London around Christmas. Hopefully it is a foreshadowing of future expansion.

USF – Regular Service is Resumed

As first reported (as far as we know) by the Daily Stampede (here), USF has decided to not use the new “academic” logo.  As you may remember and the Business Journal reminds us:

The logo was unveiled in September 2018 and officially put into use during Homecoming Week in October, after president Judy Genshaft and Hice wanted to have a logo the entire community could rally around.

We do not know about the entire community but much of the community did rally . . . to stop it.

After months of outcry from University of South Florida faculty, staff, community at large and a petition from students, university officials announced it will be reverting back to the “Bull U” logo.

“As you know, there has been a great deal of controversy over the bull image and the new color palette,” chief marketing officer Joe Hice said in an email to staff, faculty and students. “We heard this from many of you over the past six months through email, on social media and in person. We know that the feedback comes from a place of great pride and passion for USF, and we have listened. As a result, we have decided to stop using the new bull logo. Instead, we will adopt the ‘Iconic Bull U,’ which has been used by USF Athletics for almost 15 years, to represent the entire university.”

As we have said before: USF had a school seal for official/academic stuff and the “U” for everything else.  They did not need a new logo.  From the Times:

“Think of what we have accomplished under the Bull U, the students we have attracted, the faculty we have attracted,” reads an email sent to students, alumni, faculty and staff from Joe Hice, the university’s vice president of communications and marketing. “We became pre-eminent and were awarded for our performance. We raised more than $1 billion.”

Which is an argument that there was no reason to spend $1,000,000 (and more was planned) for a new logo (especially a bad one).   While we have some theories, we do not know for sure what they were thinking in the first place, but at least, after a little initial stubbornness, the administration dropped a bad idea.  Hopefully there are some lessons learned.

In other USF news, contingent on getting the Governor’s signature:

The Florida House and Senate passed a key piece of funding needed for the University of South Florida to complete its $173 million project.

USF’s budget request from the state this year was $14.6 million and the university received $12.4 million in the budget, which was approved earlier this week.

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The facility is expected to open on schedule for December. Once open, it will have wet lab space, clinical trials, meeting spaces and will house 1,800 students. It will also replace the current USF Health Morsani College of Medicine and Heart Institute at the main campus.


The University of South Florida missed out in this year’s budget. The school would have received about $27 million as a result of its pre-eminent status as part of an $80 million request for the state’s three pre-eminent universities, which also includes Florida State University and the University of Florida. However, that appropriation was removed in budget conference.

The school will also receive $36.5 million for student enhancement as well as $1.6 million for its St. Petersburg campus and $1.4 million for Sarasota-Manatee.

And then there was this:

Buried in a broad education bill is a provision that ensures USFSP will be formally considered a branch campus. It also makes clear that a branch campus has its own faculty, its own administration and its own authority to develop budgets and hire staff. That is a big win for the St. Petersburg campus, and it should end any lingering efforts to micromanage from the main campus in Tampa.

That would seem to end the discussion about how to consolidate.  Though it should begin the discussion about what the point of the whole consolidation move was (or if there is consolidation) and why none of it was worked out before the legislation was introduced.

And, finally, from the news of the bizarre category:

Pasco County commissioners voted Tuesday to end a partnership with the University of South Florida to run a body farm and training facility on county land, pushing the university’s renowned forensic anthropology arm out of an idea its leader spearheaded.

The letter to end the agreement was tucked into the commission’s consent agenda, a bundle of items that commissioners vote on as a block. The vote was unanimous.

This marks a baffling twist in the project, lauded as a unique law enforcement-academia partnership between the Pasco County Sheriff’s Office and the Florida Institute of Forensic Anthropology and Applied Sciences at USF. Plans for the state-of-the-art facility in Land O’ Lakes included Florida’s first outdoor human decomposition lab, also known as a body farm, and an indoor research and education complex.

Baffling it is.  But never fear, the human decomposition lab is probably sticking around, just with other main users. You can read the article here.

Complete Streets in the Pete

St. Pete has passed (again) a complete streets plan. (See St. Pete’s website for details here.  Just a side note: the 2019 update pdf says it was prepared with the assistance of the same company that wrote the justification for the downtown Domino’s parking lot proposal we quoted above and some of the Seasons project filings.  That is the world of paid consultants.)

The city has approved a controversial plan to make streets safer and more friendly for different modes of transit.

The city council approved the St. Petersburg Complete Streets Implementation Plan during a May 2 with a vote of 7-1.

The city previously approved a strategy of pursuing a complete streets plan in 2015, which incorporates vehicular traffic with safe sidewalks for pedestrians and bike lanes for cyclists.

The plan serves as a vision and blueprint for how St. Pete streets should be designed over the next 20 years.

St. Pete should definitely take concerns about disruption and poor execution seriously to make sure they do things right, but that does not mean they should give excess attention to a small number of people just want to say no to everything.  In any event,

The entire plan would also be updated every five years as new projects and changing conditions occur.

Existing local funding to be invested for the plan would come from the Multimodal Impact Fees Capital Improvement Fund and the Neighborhood and Citywide Capital Improvement Fund.

It is unclear exactly how much funding the plan would ultimately need.

The first and second phases of the plan, which would take place over the next five years, entail more crossings and eventually a 330-mile connected network of trails and bike paths.

We will be interested to see how it progresses.


In further rays news, they continue to do quite well and the Times ran a number of pieces about attendance (here, here, and here) and the Mayor had more to say about baseball in the previously referenced interview here and to the Times here.


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